John Hyams explains why Luc's daughter was not involved

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Originally Posted by Jizzle4050

I hate to remain off topic but I absolutely agree. GTA IV and Shenmue are two games that can hold my attention story wise over half the crap released in theaters these days. Hell I played Shenmue 2 for freakin 32 hours and Im still waiting for a sequel 7 years later (that will probably never get made). Now thats a true cliffhanger ending.

Shemnue 3 is coming to all consoles this year

[Well Dressed Killer]

Originally Posted by Sheldon Lettich

I'm beginning to wonder if this is a case of "Pre-Videogame" vs. "Post-Videogame" sensibility. I belong to the first group, meaning that for as long as I can remember movies had stories with plots, and had characters who either grew or changed over the course of the story, or had obstacles to overcome in order to find some sort of a resolution. Most movies had all of the above.

The Post-VG sensibility doesn't seem to require any of that, as long as there's constant action and movement. "Stepping into a character's shoes" seems to mean little more than just being armed with the same weapons as our on-screen "avatar" and blowing away the same bad guys, scoring the same number of points. Or stepping into a different character's shoes when our initial avatar gets blown away (or we lose interest in him).

US-3 and the "Crank" movies are shining examples to me of Post-VG movies, and they seem to work just fine for folks who've grown up playing and enjoying these games. Videogames did not really become a worldwide societal obsession until I was in my 40's. Maybe that's why US-3 didn't do anything for me emotionally, because videogames themselves have never caught my interest either. The same certainly cannot be said for the majority of folks who are on this forum. Maybe that's why I'm so out-of-step with most of you regarding this movie, and why I prefer character and plot driven movies like UD and JCVD over this one.

Great post.

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Originally Posted by Well Dressed Killer

Great post.

How can you agree?? Sheldon states he never played a videogame.. In my book you can't compare then..

[Nofear]

This is nothing like a video game comparison.

OK, 'Taken' for example, no character development in that film, that's a great film

[Jizzle4050]

Originally Posted by Nofear

This is nothing like a video game comparison.

OK, 'Taken' for example, no character development in that film, that's a great film

Absolutely. When a film delivers it delivers. Taken's concept was what drove the story forward not the characters in the slightest. Which is exactly what US3 accomplishes.

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Originally Posted by Jizzle4050

Absolutely. When a film delivers it delivers. Taken's concept was what drove the story forward not the characters in the slightest. Which is exactly what US3 accomplishes.

On the other hand, the universal soldier concept would make a very good concept for a video game....

But hey..

So would Children of Men..

[Well Dressed Killer]

Originally Posted by Porridge

How can you agree?? Sheldon states he never played a videogame.. In my book you can't compare then..

I agree that i like character and plot driven movies better than this i guess.

[Time Cop]

I still believe the comparison is valid.

Taken was a fine movie and it was driven by the emotional aspect of losing someone you love and doing everything to get her back. That does not suit the type of movie I am talking about.

I am not saying video games are the cause for this etc. but there is definitely a similarity between some run and shoot games with some of the new action movies.

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Originally Posted by Time Cop

I still believe the comparison is valid.

Taken was a fine movie and it was driven by the emotional aspect of losing someone you love and doing everything to get her back. That does not suit the type of movie I am talking about.

I am not saying video games are the cause for this etc. but there is definitely a similarity between some run and shoot games with some of the new action movies.

Gamer ??

This is ridiculous, comparing movies with videogames. Movies are the older media. Videogame genre are based on movies.. not the other way around.. And if a game get its own movie it is a different story..

Commando had such a shootout where one guy killed over 30 people... was that based on Asteroids or Pacman???

[Time Cop]

Originally Posted by Porridge

Gamer ??

This is ridiculous, comparing movies with videogames. Movies are the older media. Videogame genre are based on movies.. not the other way around.. And if a game get its own movie it is a different story..

Commando had such a shootout where one guy killed over 30 people... was that based on Asteroids or Pacman???

Not in general, I understand there are many exceptions.

Also, I am not referring to movies that kill people or have shootouts.

I am referring to Sheldon's point about lack of character development and focusing on the pure action.

There is definitely a link there as I am totally aware there are many online shooter games where the objective is simply run and kill someone without a story or progession.

I am just discussing the similarity between that and movies that have a very thin story and driven mainly by the action and killing.